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	<title>Comments on: 2005-12-04 Trunk builds</title>
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	<description>Developments in nightly builds of Mozilla Firefox</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: SuperMichael</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2005/12/04/2005-12-04-trunk-builds/#comment-3176</link>
		<dc:creator>SuperMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Dec 2005 03:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice CooLynX.

I lowered bfcache from my previous setting wich 6 to 5 and I'm now at (see picture) wich is an improvement already but still quite a lot.

http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefoxmemusage1012200537tabs5.png</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice CooLynX.</p>
<p>I lowered bfcache from my previous setting wich 6 to 5 and I&#8217;m now at (see picture) wich is an improvement already but still quite a lot.</p>
<p><a href="http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefoxmemusage1012200537tabs5.png" rel="nofollow">http://img219.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefoxmemusage1012200537tabs5.png</a></p>
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		<title>By: CooLynX</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2005/12/04/2005-12-04-trunk-builds/#comment-3172</link>
		<dc:creator>CooLynX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2005 09:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Partly I solved my lag problem by setting browser.cache.disk.enable to false. Now everything runs smooth. It still does not free the memory when you close tabs but it's no more so annoying as it was before.
Running 9 tabs with normal sites and no image galleries I have this http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefox200512095bs.png

Jesse Ruderman, I checked those sites and they look to complicated to me and time consuming right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Partly I solved my lag problem by setting browser.cache.disk.enable to false. Now everything runs smooth. It still does not free the memory when you close tabs but it&#8217;s no more so annoying as it was before.<br />
Running 9 tabs with normal sites and no image galleries I have this <a href="http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefox200512095bs.png" rel="nofollow">http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=firefox200512095bs.png</a></p>
<p>Jesse Ruderman, I checked those sites and they look to complicated to me and time consuming right now.</p>
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		<title>By: scuba</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/burningedge/2005/12/04/2005-12-04-trunk-builds/#comment-3162</link>
		<dc:creator>scuba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 21:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coollynx: Turn on the "Peak Mem Usage" column in your task manager to see the most that FF task has consumed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coollynx: Turn on the &#8220;Peak Mem Usage&#8221; column in your task manager to see the most that FF task has consumed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Kuhnert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesse Kuhnert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Completely off topic (sort of), but it's worth trying even if it is a little naughty to ask questions in a blog....

Do you know of, or have any knowledge of the alpha image transparency support of png images on linux? There could be much more specific items I'm leaving out, but if you go to this page:

http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/tests/widget/test_FisheyeList.html

And mouse over the items you'll notice (on linux at least, i'm running fc4 with latest yum updates from most repos like dries/livna/etc..) that the png image scaling doesn't really perform so well. It works swiimmingly with FF on windows, but not linux. 

It's not a huge deal, but without very much luck searching through bugzilla for a definitive answer I thought I'd ask here. 

jesse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Completely off topic (sort of), but it&#8217;s worth trying even if it is a little naughty to ask questions in a blog&#8230;.</p>
<p>Do you know of, or have any knowledge of the alpha image transparency support of png images on linux? There could be much more specific items I&#8217;m leaving out, but if you go to this page:</p>
<p><a href="http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/tests/widget/test_FisheyeList.html" rel="nofollow">http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/tests/widget/test_FisheyeList.html</a></p>
<p>And mouse over the items you&#8217;ll notice (on linux at least, i&#8217;m running fc4 with latest yum updates from most repos like dries/livna/etc..) that the png image scaling doesn&#8217;t really perform so well. It works swiimmingly with FF on windows, but not linux. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not a huge deal, but without very much luck searching through bugzilla for a definitive answer I thought I&#8217;d ask here. </p>
<p>jesse</p>
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		<title>By: SuperMichael</title>
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		<dc:creator>SuperMichael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 19:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow CooLynX I wish Firefox would use such a small amount of memory here.
Even when I close Firefox and reopen it with the 25 tabs saved by session saver it already starts at 200MB+

I had a look at your links Jesse Rudderman and the memory leak finding tools look kinda complicated.
I'm no programmer, though I had a minimal amount of pascal 2.0 in school and i know html &#38; css but I'm far from beeing an expert at it.
I'm intrested in getting the memory usage down but I doubt I'd be of much help.

For me the memory usage is easily to reproduce. I start with my daily round of tech sites and after a few hours depending on wether I loaded a bunch of tabs or started with no tabs i'm at 600MB+.
For testing I tried to keep surfing once to see I i could go beyond 1000MB wich turned out to be no problem at all but browsing became really frustrating since opening a new tab/window causes(d) Firefox to use a lot of cpu power and the whole browser hangs for a few seconds if there are a lot of tabs opened and Firefox hasen't been restarted for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow CooLynX I wish Firefox would use such a small amount of memory here.<br />
Even when I close Firefox and reopen it with the 25 tabs saved by session saver it already starts at 200MB+</p>
<p>I had a look at your links Jesse Rudderman and the memory leak finding tools look kinda complicated.<br />
I&#8217;m no programmer, though I had a minimal amount of pascal 2.0 in school and i know html &amp; css but I&#8217;m far from beeing an expert at it.<br />
I&#8217;m intrested in getting the memory usage down but I doubt I&#8217;d be of much help.</p>
<p>For me the memory usage is easily to reproduce. I start with my daily round of tech sites and after a few hours depending on wether I loaded a bunch of tabs or started with no tabs i&#8217;m at 600MB+.<br />
For testing I tried to keep surfing once to see I i could go beyond 1000MB wich turned out to be no problem at all but browsing became really frustrating since opening a new tab/window causes(d) Firefox to use a lot of cpu power and the whole browser hangs for a few seconds if there are a lot of tabs opened and Firefox hasen&#8217;t been restarted for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 10:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis J. - 1.5 upgraded the back-end, 2.0 is upgrading the front-end. This makes sense as that's what users will notice.

nestastnik - there is a thing that windows does to swap the program's memory out to disk, however that's disabled, but you can still re-enable it I think (add the pref config.trim_on_minimize no longer works and set to true). You can also get her to try the SessionSaver extension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis J. - 1.5 upgraded the back-end, 2.0 is upgrading the front-end. This makes sense as that&#8217;s what users will notice.</p>
<p>nestastnik - there is a thing that windows does to swap the program&#8217;s memory out to disk, however that&#8217;s disabled, but you can still re-enable it I think (add the pref config.trim_on_minimize no longer works and set to true). You can also get her to try the SessionSaver extension.</p>
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