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	<title>Comments on: Internet Explorer drops support for bookmarklets?</title>
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	<description>Jesse Ruderman on Firefox, security, and more</description>
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		<title>By: minghong</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/2005/01/12/internet-explorer-drops-support-for-bookmarklets/#comment-991</link>
		<dc:creator>minghong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps yet another "security" enhancements? :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps yet another &#8220;security&#8221; enhancements? :-P</p>
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		<title>By: Milly</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/2005/01/12/internet-explorer-drops-support-for-bookmarklets/#comment-992</link>
		<dc:creator>Milly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it may have arrived with the MS Jan 05 patches to IE6 SP2 (or possibly the Dec 04 ones: I was slow to apply those). Or perhaps earlier: I don't use IE these days either.

It appears the 'solution' is to add the site to the Trusted Zone (my site's bookmarklet pages now suggest "For the latest versions/patches of IE you may need to add the site to your Trusted Zone to enable drag'n'drop. You shouldn't be adding Bookmarklets from a site you don't trust anyway, but if in doubt don't use the drag'n'drop method, or remove the site from the Trusted Zone afterwards"). 

Is there something more dangerous about drag'n'drop than via the menus? I doubt it, but after that dragging the scrollbar exploit (&lt;a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+drag+scrollbar+exploit),"&gt;http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+drag+scrollbar+exploit),&lt;/a&gt; I suppose anything is possible.

Btw, for some time (since SP2 I think) IE has exhibited different behaviour re spaces when adding bookmarklets using either the menus, or dragging. Often that means that dragged bookmarklets get their spaces converted to "%20"s. 

Alas, I think that breaks some of your bookmarklets (though there may be other factors: despite liberally stealing your code, I don't anywhere near fully understand JS. Do you use spaces for functionality, or only readability, for example?). In IE6 SP2 many of the bookmarklets on your zap.html page, for example, only work for me when used from the page, not when saved as a Favourite (though sometimes whether dragging, or using the menus, makes a difference). "Zap colours", as an easy example, works from the page, but not from the Links bar (howsoever put there). Works fine in Opera.

I managed to hack around my very basic ones to regain cross-browser functionality, even with SP2, but I don't pretend to understand what's going on. (I had to remove the spaces to get my GoogleAnon 'port' of your "toggle google look" bookmarklet to work under SP2). 

I hope you have enough residual interest in IE (or at least in cross-browser compatibility) to figure it out ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it may have arrived with the MS Jan 05 patches to IE6 SP2 (or possibly the Dec 04 ones: I was slow to apply those). Or perhaps earlier: I don&#8217;t use IE these days either.</p>
<p>It appears the &#8217;solution&#8217; is to add the site to the Trusted Zone (my site&#8217;s bookmarklet pages now suggest &#8220;For the latest versions/patches of IE you may need to add the site to your Trusted Zone to enable drag&#8217;n'drop. You shouldn&#8217;t be adding Bookmarklets from a site you don&#8217;t trust anyway, but if in doubt don&#8217;t use the drag&#8217;n'drop method, or remove the site from the Trusted Zone afterwards&#8221;). </p>
<p>Is there something more dangerous about drag&#8217;n'drop than via the menus? I doubt it, but after that dragging the scrollbar exploit (<a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+drag+scrollbar+exploit),"></a><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+drag+scrollbar+exploit" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/search?q=IE+drag+scrollbar+exploit</a>), I suppose anything is possible.</p>
<p>Btw, for some time (since SP2 I think) IE has exhibited different behaviour re spaces when adding bookmarklets using either the menus, or dragging. Often that means that dragged bookmarklets get their spaces converted to &#8220;%20&#8243;s. </p>
<p>Alas, I think that breaks some of your bookmarklets (though there may be other factors: despite liberally stealing your code, I don&#8217;t anywhere near fully understand JS. Do you use spaces for functionality, or only readability, for example?). In IE6 SP2 many of the bookmarklets on your zap.html page, for example, only work for me when used from the page, not when saved as a Favourite (though sometimes whether dragging, or using the menus, makes a difference). &#8220;Zap colours&#8221;, as an easy example, works from the page, but not from the Links bar (howsoever put there). Works fine in Opera.</p>
<p>I managed to hack around my very basic ones to regain cross-browser functionality, even with SP2, but I don&#8217;t pretend to understand what&#8217;s going on. (I had to remove the spaces to get my GoogleAnon &#8216;port&#8217; of your &#8220;toggle google look&#8221; bookmarklet to work under SP2). </p>
<p>I hope you have enough residual interest in IE (or at least in cross-browser compatibility) to figure it out ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/2005/01/12/internet-explorer-drops-support-for-bookmarklets/#comment-993</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bookmarklets on SquareFree, are great, but I'm a huge Bookmarklet fanatic, and have written many that are 1,000's of characters long, and thus have not worked in IE, in a LONG! time (if they were even possible in IE (most were not))

Once again, once you start *really* using Firefox, you'll wonder why people use IE, for anything other than Windows Update.

Cheers,
Steve
Web Application Developer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bookmarklets on SquareFree, are great, but I&#8217;m a huge Bookmarklet fanatic, and have written many that are 1,000&#8217;s of characters long, and thus have not worked in IE, in a LONG! time (if they were even possible in IE (most were not))</p>
<p>Once again, once you start *really* using Firefox, you&#8217;ll wonder why people use IE, for anything other than Windows Update.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Steve<br />
Web Application Developer</p>
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		<title>By: Joey</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/2005/01/12/internet-explorer-drops-support-for-bookmarklets/#comment-994</link>
		<dc:creator>Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why?

That just doesn't make any sense.

By the way, what's firefox limit? (I don't feel like testing it... haha)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why?</p>
<p>That just doesn&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
<p>By the way, what&#8217;s firefox limit? (I don&#8217;t feel like testing it&#8230; haha)</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Ruderman</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/2005/01/12/internet-explorer-drops-support-for-bookmarklets/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Ruderman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firefox supports 100000-character bookmarklets (tested using &lt;a href="http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/limits.html)."&gt;http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/limits.html).&lt;/a&gt;  I don't know what its limit is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firefox supports 100000-character bookmarklets (tested using <a href="http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/limits.html)."></a><a href="http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/limits.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.squarefree.com/bookmarklets/limits.html</a>).  I don&#8217;t know what its limit is.</p>
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		<title>By: stone</title>
		<link>http://www.squarefree.com/2005/01/12/internet-explorer-drops-support-for-bookmarklets/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Steves favelet suite at &lt;a href="http://slayeroffice.com/?c=/content/tools/suite.html"&gt;http://slayeroffice.com/?c=/content/tools/suite.html&lt;/a&gt; is a good solution to ship around browser quirks with loading bookmarklets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Steves favelet suite at <a href="http://slayeroffice.com/?c=/content/tools/suite.html">http://slayeroffice.com/?c=/content/tools/suite.html</a> is a good solution to ship around browser quirks with loading bookmarklets.</p>
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